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How do I find a good dumb TV? Question

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A lot of TVs on the market these days are "Smart TVs" which I don't want. I've had smart TVs in the past and found that I don't use any of their features. Further, the software is often laggy, buggy and gets in the way. Moreover there are concern about privacy and ads.

When shopping for a new TV, how do I find a non-smart TV? Are there specific manufacturers or stores that specialize in them, or at least provide a good selection with appropriate filters/categories?

I know that a few "budget" stores like Target, Bestbuy and Walmart can have token dumb TV options. These are usually a brand called ONN. These are good for their price, but they are very cheap TVs ($100-200) and the sound/picture quality is correspondingly poor. I have not seen any products that are similarly "dumb TVs" but have decent video quality.

A few things that I tried:

  • Searching for "dumb TV" on Amazon provides very few results. A lot of them are still smart TVs, Amazon's search feature just sucks.
  • B&H Video has categories for non-smart TVs, but they are usually "outdoor screens" that cost multiple thousands of dollars
  • When I search for "commercial screens" many of them still have smart TV software, it's just less prominent in the product blurb
  • When I search for large computer monitors, many end up being "gaming monitors" or "smart monitors" which have the same smart TV software

Have non-smart TVs become a lost technology now? How do you go about finding one?

I've also heard the theory that smart TVs are actually cheaper to sell, because the ads/anti-privacy features are an extra income stream for the manufacturer. That's fine, I'm willing to pay more (up to $1000) for a dumb TV even though it has fewer features. However, the more it costs, the more research I have to do to make sure it's really what I want, and I've noticed that more expensive dumb TVs are obscure and have few reviews, presumably because few people buy them.

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You haven't defined exactly what features are part of "smart" versus "dumb". What most people consider "smart TV" features require a network connection. No matter how smart a TV is, if you don't connect it to a network, then it won't present the smart features.

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matthewsnyder‭ wrote 8 months ago

I've heard this advice elsewhere and I suppose it works for people concerned only about privacy and ads. However, Smart TVs also come with an advanced operating system which is more complex and more prone to failure. Leaving it unconnected will only make that worse as it will constantly nag me about connecting to the internet, in addition to being a bloated, overcomplicated and laggy UI.

Yeah, I think you should revisit this post in light of your suggestion under my post on PU: Turning a Samsung smart screen into a dumb computer monitor

They contradict each other, and I think it shows that this isn't really correct in its assumptions.

Spamalot‭ wrote about 2 months ago · edited about 2 months ago

Since I have a "Google TV" (Sony, first generation NSX32GT1) which Google released perhaps one software update for before abandoning it to obsolescence, making it dumb as heck (if you wanted a smart TV) I can say that this is not really (or universally) the case. The OS is far from advanced, and there is really no lag to speak of for the functions it still needs to perform - switch the input (or channel if you get OTA) and change the volume. Attempting to use any of the long-past-freshness-date apps is a bad idea best avoided, but on/off, (though actual off takes removing the power) input, channel, volume are not laggy, and it's unclear that the crappy not advanced OS is any more prone to fail (hasn't yet and it's quite old - like 14 years or so) than modern hardware with consumer components. I've also dealt with other brands for classroom deployments, most of which were useless "smarts" and not updated past 6 months from purchase. None of them have nagged about not being connected.