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I have updated and formalized the scope definition of the Sports proposal. This post is intended as a general discussion post regarding site scope.

Specifically as of 24-06-27, I would like feedback regarding if these things should be on-topic? I added them but have no strong opinions about any of it myself.

  • Motor sports
  • Animal sports
  • E-sports
  • Sports history
  • Statistics
  • Sports equipment recommendations
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There are two obvious ways to set the scope: Physical sports only, or anything competitive.

Physical sports only: This would pretty much exclude all overlaps. You might miss out on some "came to discuss competitive starcraft, stayed for the soccer questions" people. But if creating proposals continues to be easy, and the incubator stays as it is, I think most of these people can simply start their own proposal.

Everything competitive: This would include all overlaps that don't already have their own site. For example, if there was a "Chess" site like SO, chess questions are better sent there. You might miss out on some purists who like to complain that "X is not a real sport". But then again, those purists also complain about things like figure skating, so does it even matter? With this approach, there is also the question of excluding discussion about doing the sports as a hobby without regard to the competitive aspect.

I would say that it comes down to what seed content you (and other early users) are willing to contribute. After you amass say 100 questions, how many will actually be not about physical sports? If less than 5-10 you are better off going the narrow route.

For some specific overlaps:

  • Communities can cover organizing sports leagues and clubs
  • "Fitness" doesn't exist yet, but it's an obvious overlap. A lot of people exercise for health or fun, without ever caring about competition, even though all the exercises have corresponding sports. Many sportsmen tend to have fitness programs (eg. weightlifting) that supports their competitiveness in the sport.
  • "Pets" doesn't exist, but maybe it's better to send all the animal stuff there, since the proposal is trying to exclude animal behavior for example. There's also things like care & feeding, where the "animal" aspect is more relevant than the "sport" aspect.
  • Shopping can cover questions about equipment/gear, resources (like books or classes), sports paraphenelia, sports event tickets
  • Tabletop Games can cover chess and other "table sports"
  • Video Games can cover e-sports, competitive multiplayer, speedrunning

I tried to edit the proposal directly, but realized that I can't change some things without contradicting the scope, and I don't want to edit that. But turns out you can't revert edits (feel free to revert mine if you find a way), and copy pasting the text from the history breaks formatting. 🤷

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Regarding overlaps (3 comments)
Regarding overlaps
Lundin‭ wrote 5 months ago

I don't think we can start to consider overlaps with other incubator proposals, only with launched sites. Many people are happy to make new site proposals but not as happy to follow up with meta discussions, seeding Q&A etc. So it looks like we are going to have some 20+ proposals that never get launched for every site which does. As for considering overlaps with sites that aren't even proposed: that doesn't make any sense.

I didn't realize overlaps were only for launched sites, my bad.

The last bit - why doesn't it make sense?

Lundin‭ wrote 5 months ago

matthewsnyder‭ Because we cannot reasonably expect someone proposing a new site to dig through and care about all of the proposals, out which some 90% are half-baked and/or completely inactive and will never get launched. With launched sites it is easier since they are there to stay and easier to get an overview about.