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Ok, this was weird. The setting was on, I pasted in some Mathjax, it didn't render, I turned it off and on, and now it's rendering. Experiment below: I need some Mathjax to test with, so I'm c...

posted 1y ago by Monica Cellio‭  ·  edited 1y ago by Monica Cellio‭

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#3: Post edited by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2023-08-02T20:02:08Z (over 1 year ago)
  • Ok, this was weird. The setting was on, I pasted in some Mathjax, it didn't render, I turned it off and on, and now it's rendering.
  • Experiment below:
  • ----
  • I need some Mathjax to test with, so I'm copying from [this post from Mathematics Codidact](https://math.codidact.com/posts/288658).
  • ----
  • I'm exploring a function that takes a non-negative integer vector $$ \theta\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$$ and returns the modulus of each adjacent vector components, wrapping around:
  • $$
  • s:{\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \rightarrow {\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \\
  • $$
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) =
  • s\left(\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \\ w \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |y-x| \\
  • |z-y| \\
  • |w-z| \\
  • |x-w|
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Example:
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s\left(\begin{bmatrix} 6 \\ 2 \\ 15 \\ 7 \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |2-6| \\
  • |15-2| \\
  • |7-15| \\
  • |6-7|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |-4| \\
  • |+13| \\
  • |-8| \\
  • |-1|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • 4 \\
  • 13 \\
  • 8 \\
  • 1
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Basic properties of $s$ that I can prove:
  • * $ s \text{ is not linear} $
  • * $ s(\boldsymbol{0}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • * $ s(\lambda\boldsymbol{\theta}) = |\lambda|s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) $
  • * Let $\boldsymbol\theta' = \boldsymbol\theta - \theta_{min}$, where $\theta_{min}$ is the smallest component of $\boldsymbol\theta$. Then $s(\boldsymbol\theta)=s(\boldsymbol\theta') $
  • In my experiments, I observed that the repeated application of $s$ converged to the zero vector for all sample inputs I tried: millions of unique $\boldsymbol{\theta}\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$
  • As a purely recreational exercise, my goal is to prove or disprove that this holds *for all* $\boldsymbol{\theta}$:
  • $ \forall_{\boldsymbol{\theta} \in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4} \exists_{n\ge 0} \space \space \overbrace{s \circ \ s \circ \dots s}^{n} (\boldsymbol{\theta}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • Now my questions:
  • 1. Is $s$ a common function in some domain or application?
  • 1. Which research keyworks would you recommend to find more about $s$ (or similar function)?
  • Search expressions like "adjacent element distance" and variations thereof didn't help much. These often lead to pages more on the implementation/coding side of the problem.
  • This is purely a recreational problem. There is no real application that I know of - but I would like to know. I'm not a professional mathematician. My background is computer science.
  • Thank you
  • Ok, this was weird. The setting was on, I pasted in some Mathjax, it didn't render, I turned it off and on, and now it's rendering.
  • Experiment below:
  • ----
  • I need some Mathjax to test with, so I'm copying from [this post from Mathematics Codidact](https://math.codidact.com/posts/288658).
  • ----
  • I'm exploring a function that takes a non-negative integer vector $$ \theta\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$$ and returns the modulus of each adjacent vector components, wrapping around:
  • $$
  • s:{\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \rightarrow {\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \\
  • $$
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) =
  • s\left(\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \\ w \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |y-x| \\
  • |z-y| \\
  • |w-z| \\
  • |x-w|
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Example:
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s\left(\begin{bmatrix} 6 \\ 2 \\ 15 \\ 7 \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |2-6| \\
  • |15-2| \\
  • |7-15| \\
  • |6-7|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |-4| \\
  • |+13| \\
  • |-8| \\
  • |-1|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • 4 \\
  • 13 \\
  • 8 \\
  • 1
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Basic properties of $s$ that I can prove:
  • * $ s \text{ is not linear} $
  • * $ s(\boldsymbol{0}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • * $ s(\lambda\boldsymbol{\theta}) = |\lambda|s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) $
  • * Let $\boldsymbol\theta' = \boldsymbol\theta - \theta_{min}$, where $\theta_{min}$ is the smallest component of $\boldsymbol\theta$. Then $s(\boldsymbol\theta)=s(\boldsymbol\theta') $
  • In my experiments, I observed that the repeated application of $s$ converged to the zero vector for all sample inputs I tried: millions of unique $\boldsymbol{\theta}\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$
  • As a purely recreational exercise, my goal is to prove or disprove that this holds *for all* $\boldsymbol{\theta}$:
  • $ \forall_{\boldsymbol{\theta} \in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4} \exists_{n\ge 0} \space \space \overbrace{s \circ \ s \circ \dots s}^{n} (\boldsymbol{\theta}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • Now my questions: (...)
#2: Post edited by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2023-08-02T20:00:20Z (over 1 year ago)
  • I need some Mathjax to test with, so I'm copying from [this post from Mathematics Codidact](https://math.codidact.com/posts/288658).
  • ----
  • I'm exploring a function that takes a non-negative integer vector $$ \theta\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$$ and returns the modulus of each adjacent vector components, wrapping around:
  • $$
  • s:{\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \rightarrow {\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \\
  • $$
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) =
  • s\left(\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \\ w \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |y-x| \\
  • |z-y| \\
  • |w-z| \\
  • |x-w|
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Example:
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s\left(\begin{bmatrix} 6 \\ 2 \\ 15 \\ 7 \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |2-6| \\
  • |15-2| \\
  • |7-15| \\
  • |6-7|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |-4| \\
  • |+13| \\
  • |-8| \\
  • |-1|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • 4 \\
  • 13 \\
  • 8 \\
  • 1
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Basic properties of $s$ that I can prove:
  • * $ s \text{ is not linear} $
  • * $ s(\boldsymbol{0}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • * $ s(\lambda\boldsymbol{\theta}) = |\lambda|s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) $
  • * Let $\boldsymbol\theta' = \boldsymbol\theta - \theta_{min}$, where $\theta_{min}$ is the smallest component of $\boldsymbol\theta$. Then $s(\boldsymbol\theta)=s(\boldsymbol\theta') $
  • In my experiments, I observed that the repeated application of $s$ converged to the zero vector for all sample inputs I tried: millions of unique $\boldsymbol{\theta}\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$
  • As a purely recreational exercise, my goal is to prove or disprove that this holds *for all* $\boldsymbol{\theta}$:
  • $ \forall_{\boldsymbol{\theta} \in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4} \exists_{n\ge 0} \space \space \overbrace{s \circ \ s \circ \dots s}^{n} (\boldsymbol{\theta}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • Now my questions:
  • 1. Is $s$ a common function in some domain or application?
  • 1. Which research keyworks would you recommend to find more about $s$ (or similar function)?
  • Search expressions like "adjacent element distance" and variations thereof didn't help much. These often lead to pages more on the implementation/coding side of the problem.
  • This is purely a recreational problem. There is no real application that I know of - but I would like to know. I'm not a professional mathematician. My background is computer science.
  • Thank you
  • Ok, this was weird. The setting was on, I pasted in some Mathjax, it didn't render, I turned it off and on, and now it's rendering.
  • Experiment below:
  • ----
  • I need some Mathjax to test with, so I'm copying from [this post from Mathematics Codidact](https://math.codidact.com/posts/288658).
  • ----
  • I'm exploring a function that takes a non-negative integer vector $$ \theta\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$$ and returns the modulus of each adjacent vector components, wrapping around:
  • $$
  • s:{\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \rightarrow {\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \\
  • $$
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) =
  • s\left(\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \\ w \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |y-x| \\
  • |z-y| \\
  • |w-z| \\
  • |x-w|
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Example:
  • $$
  • \begin{align*}
  • & s\left(\begin{bmatrix} 6 \\ 2 \\ 15 \\ 7 \end{bmatrix} \right) =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |2-6| \\
  • |15-2| \\
  • |7-15| \\
  • |6-7|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • |-4| \\
  • |+13| \\
  • |-8| \\
  • |-1|
  • \end{bmatrix} =
  • \begin{bmatrix}
  • 4 \\
  • 13 \\
  • 8 \\
  • 1
  • \end{bmatrix}
  • \end{align*}
  • $$
  • Basic properties of $s$ that I can prove:
  • * $ s \text{ is not linear} $
  • * $ s(\boldsymbol{0}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • * $ s(\lambda\boldsymbol{\theta}) = |\lambda|s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) $
  • * Let $\boldsymbol\theta' = \boldsymbol\theta - \theta_{min}$, where $\theta_{min}$ is the smallest component of $\boldsymbol\theta$. Then $s(\boldsymbol\theta)=s(\boldsymbol\theta') $
  • In my experiments, I observed that the repeated application of $s$ converged to the zero vector for all sample inputs I tried: millions of unique $\boldsymbol{\theta}\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$
  • As a purely recreational exercise, my goal is to prove or disprove that this holds *for all* $\boldsymbol{\theta}$:
  • $ \forall_{\boldsymbol{\theta} \in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4} \exists_{n\ge 0} \space \space \overbrace{s \circ \ s \circ \dots s}^{n} (\boldsymbol{\theta}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
  • Now my questions:
  • 1. Is $s$ a common function in some domain or application?
  • 1. Which research keyworks would you recommend to find more about $s$ (or similar function)?
  • Search expressions like "adjacent element distance" and variations thereof didn't help much. These often lead to pages more on the implementation/coding side of the problem.
  • This is purely a recreational problem. There is no real application that I know of - but I would like to know. I'm not a professional mathematician. My background is computer science.
  • Thank you
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2023-08-02T19:57:56Z (over 1 year ago)
I need some Mathjax to test with, so I'm copying from [this post from Mathematics Codidact](https://math.codidact.com/posts/288658).

----

I'm exploring a function that takes a non-negative integer vector $$ \theta\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$$ and returns the modulus of each adjacent vector components, wrapping around:

$$
s:{\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \rightarrow {\mathbb{N}_0}^4 \\
$$

$$
\begin{align*}
& s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) =
s\left(\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \\ w \end{bmatrix} \right) =
\begin{bmatrix}
|y-x| \\
|z-y| \\
|w-z| \\
|x-w|
\end{bmatrix}
\end{align*}
$$

Example:

$$
\begin{align*}
& s\left(\begin{bmatrix} 6 \\ 2 \\ 15 \\ 7 \end{bmatrix} \right) =
\begin{bmatrix}
|2-6| \\
|15-2| \\
|7-15| \\
|6-7|
\end{bmatrix} =

\begin{bmatrix}
|-4| \\
|+13| \\
|-8| \\
|-1|
\end{bmatrix} =

\begin{bmatrix}
4 \\
13 \\
8 \\
1
\end{bmatrix}

\end{align*}
$$

Basic properties of $s$ that I can prove:

* $ s \text{ is not linear} $
* $ s(\boldsymbol{0}) = \boldsymbol{0} $
* $ s(\lambda\boldsymbol{\theta}) = |\lambda|s(\boldsymbol{\theta}) $
* Let $\boldsymbol\theta' = \boldsymbol\theta - \theta_{min}$, where $\theta_{min}$ is the smallest component of $\boldsymbol\theta$. Then $s(\boldsymbol\theta)=s(\boldsymbol\theta') $

In my experiments, I observed that the repeated application of $s$ converged to the zero vector for all sample inputs I tried: millions of unique $\boldsymbol{\theta}\in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4$

As a purely recreational exercise, my goal is to prove or disprove that this holds *for all* $\boldsymbol{\theta}$:

$ \forall_{\boldsymbol{\theta} \in {\mathbb{N}_0}^4} \exists_{n\ge 0} \space \space \overbrace{s \circ \ s \circ \dots s}^{n} (\boldsymbol{\theta}) = \boldsymbol{0} $

Now my questions:

1. Is $s$ a common function in some domain or application?
1. Which research keyworks would you recommend to find more about $s$  (or similar function)?

Search expressions like "adjacent element distance" and variations thereof didn't help much. These often lead to pages more on the implementation/coding side of the problem.

This is purely a recreational problem. There is no real application that I know of - but I would like to know. I'm not a professional mathematician. My background is computer science.

Thank you